Paper Patched Bullets in a Browning .45-70 BPCR

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Re: Paper Patched Bullets in a Browning .45-70 BPCR

Postby Ranch 13 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:16 pm

Brent the Winchester bpcr is the same as the Browning bpcr, except for the roll mark on the barrel. We've shot the same bore diameter paper patch bullets in it with excellent accuracy as I shoot in the sharps. So you said bore diameter speaking from experience with Pauls rifle. I said bore diameter speaking from experience with my wife's rifle and Kurt said bore diameter shooting his browning bpcr's.... So you may want to reevaluate a little.

As to my public scores, it's funny how you dumbassholes put so much stock in the scores, but know nothing about what went on to fire those scores. For instance there's no way the "scores" will reflect a rifle with a sight with only 14 minutes of windage, shooting during a match that most folks are having to dial in 25 or more..... Applying kentucky windage works fair, but it won't win matches, but then winning matches may not be what somebody is concerned about. The final score sheet doesn't show shooting a match with the barrel sights... The Score sheets doesn't show a gun breaking down. The Score sheets doesn't show a lot of stuff, but you go ahead and believe what ever you want about somebody you've never met at places you've never shot at.
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Re: Paper Patched Bullets in a Browning .45-70 BPCR

Postby Brent » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:23 pm

Ranch 13 wrote:Brent the Winchester bpcr is the same as the Browning bpcr, except for the roll mark on the barrel. We've shot the same bore diameter paper patch bullets in it with excellent accuracy as I shoot in the sharps. So you said bore diameter speaking from experience with Pauls rifle. I said bore diameter speaking from experience with my wife's rifle and Kurt said bore diameter shooting his browning bpcr's.... So you may want to reevaluate a little.

No, not really. You still don't know squat about what makes a good rifle shoot paper patches.

As to my public scores, it's funny how you dumbassholes put so much stock in the scores, but know nothing about what went on to fire those scores. For instance there's no way the "scores" will reflect a rifle with a sight with only 14 minutes of windage, shooting during a match that most folks are having to dial in 25 or more..... Applying kentucky windage works fair, but it won't win matches, but then winning matches may not be what somebody is concerned about. The final score sheet doesn't show shooting a match with the barrel sights... The Score sheets doesn't show a gun breaking down. The Score sheets doesn't show a lot of stuff, but you go ahead and believe what ever you want about somebody you've never met at places you've never shot at.


The score sheets show, over and over, that relative to everyone else, you are well below the fold dependably.
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Re: Paper Patched Bullets in a Browning .45-70 BPCR

Postby Ranch 13 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:34 pm

What ever you say, but they still don't say anything about a front sight falling out. They don't say a word about using a variety of loads during the match just to test them at long distance.They don't say anything about shooting a match without a spotter, There's alot they don't say, but as usual you know every friggin thing there is to know..... :roll:

Any time asshole you think you got what it takes, we'll go headed to head in the same relay side by side no spotters and the barrel sights only.... Then maybe you'll understand a littlebit more about what the score sheets say...
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Re: Paper Patched Bullets in a Browning .45-70 BPCR

Postby TexasMac » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:28 pm

Gentlemen,

We had the beginnings of a good thread going here until you guys started pissing on each other.
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Re: Paper Patched Bullets in a Browning .45-70 BPCR

Postby Ranch 13 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:44 pm

WE didn't start pissing each other. Take that bullshit up with the Danielson morphadite. Don't know what his problem is and I don't really care, but I am not going to lay back and take the little bitches attacks that always seem to come from nowhere.
I will say that anybody that can only muster a 6th place finish in AA class at Raton, running as far back from the top scores as the Danielson morphadite did, I'm reminded of the those that live in Glass houses shouldn't throw stones. :roll:
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Re: Paper Patched Bullets in a Browning .45-70 BPCR

Postby Brent » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:05 am

Don, you need your drugs checked again.

I'm happy to compare my scores with yours. And if we get to "adjust" for front sights falling off, firing pins breaking, scope mounts failing, etc. That will greatly help me, as all have happened recently. I will still out shoot you. Every time.

Meanwhile, anyone that thinks the Winchester/Browning .45-70 can't shoot paper patch with superb accuracy is simply cheating himself. There are a lot of shooter who have proven otherwise. Properly loaded, that chamber is really about the closest thing there is to a .45 caliber Rigby muzzleloader. It will shoot with great accuracy. In fact, it is probably the single best, off the rack, paper patch gun out there. But it will require wiping between shots.

Don is wrong - again.
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Re: Paper Patched Bullets in a Browning .45-70 BPCR

Postby montana_charlie » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:31 pm

TexasMac wrote:CM,

Boy, that's one long thread, but I read the whole thing. Thanks for the link. It certainly answers my question.

Glad you liked it. There was a fair amount of input from others in that 'odyssey', but most tried to concentrate on the method in question, without too much demagoging to go the other way.
I'm sure you noticed that Don never really caught onto the mechanics in question, so he still goes off the deep end when the subject comes up.

That initial shot he took (in this thread) was directed at you and me, but Brent thought that HE was the target ...
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