45/70 Highwall Hunting Load????

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45/70 Highwall Hunting Load????

Post by brandon » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:29 am

I know it's very late in the game. I am looking for a good smokeless load that I can shoot in my new 45/70. Any suggestion. I want to purchase some of the blackpowder handloads for Buffalo Arms but I see they are all out. All I need to find some rings and bases for it also. Need some help!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: 45/70 Highwall Hunting Load????

Post by beltfed » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:10 pm

What Kind of Hi Wall is it?

A Browning? If so , there are Weaver bases that work on its D&T receiver and barrel.

IF its a browning or a "good condition" original Hi Wall or a C Sharps, a good modest smokeless load is 38 grains of 3031 and a 400 grain bullet
as listed for the TD in Lyman 49 handbook.

For many years I have shot the Lyman listed 48 grains of 3031/ 385 gr gas check bullet out of my Orig /win 1886 and Marlin 1895s- it has been a proven deer killer. Kind of heavy recoil, tho. - 1740fps.

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Re: 45/70 Highwall Hunting Load????

Post by brandon » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:38 pm

I have winchester 1885. thanks for the load very much. now for the details I am thinking it would take a large primer with no special cramping to the bullet in the cannilure. Am I correct? Basically I am going to hunt in the woods mostly with it with a some small fields (green) not more than 200 yd. so I would suppose a 3x9 Nikon would be the ticket. Also who is a good supplier for bullets?

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Re: 45/70 Highwall Hunting Load????

Post by George Babits » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:47 pm

I used to use 42 grains of 3031 with a 420 grain bullet in my 45-70 rebarreled Sharps. Shot great in the warm weather. Shot like a shotgun in cold (20 degrees and lower) weather. With 3031 in the 45-70 you are working at the lower end of the pressure curve and it isn't worth a crap in cold weather. If your hunting is in 70 degrees weather go for it. If your hunting is in cold weather, use black powder and you'll have a whole lot more success; unless of course you are using a Ruger #1 which will allow you to work within the pressures smokeless powders need for decent accuracy. It took me quite a while to figure out that black powder cartridges shoot best with black powder. If I don't want to clean the rifle and brass after shooting I use my 30-40 Karg or 38-55.

Good Luck with smokeless powder!
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