.38-50 rem Hepburn from .303 British

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.38-50 rem Hepburn from .303 British

Post by gunlaker » Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:58 am

Here is a toic for you Charlie :-)

I'm still undecided on my .38 as to whether it should be a .38-55 ( which I already load for in two single shots ), or whether to go to a .38-50 Rem Hepburn.

I'm in Canada and .30-40 Krag brass is nearly unobtainable, at least in enough quantities that I can load for a two day silhouette match. I can take Dan's reamer design and change it to work with .303 British cases, but the brass would come up a bit shorter and I'd lose some case capacity. That's not good IMO as the whole point is increasing the case capacity over a .38-55. I suppose I could see if I could get a Kal Max case stretcher set up to lengthen the brass after fireforming.

I know of one local guy who has formed and stretched .303 British brass to .38-50 but I don't have his machining skills.

Has anyone out there done a .38-50 on .303 British cases?

Chris.

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Re: .38-50 rem Hepburn from .303 British

Post by Marlin38 » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:45 pm

My missus uses a 38-50 with 303 cases. The shorter legnth doesnt worry us as the bullet just protudes a little further. I use 49 grn of swiss 2f and a 320g projie. The load works really well and is easy to shoot. She is also the only master grade BPCR Sil shooter in Australia.


Dave

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Re: .38-50 rem Hepburn from .303 British

Post by gunlaker » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:05 pm

Marlin38 wroteCOLONMy missus uses a 38-50 with 303 cases. The shorter legnth doesnt worry us as the bullet just protudes a little further. I use 49 grn of swiss 2f and a 320g projie. The load works really well and is easy to shoot. She is also the only master grade BPCR Sil shooter in Australia.


Dave
Thanks Dave. I think I'll go with the Remington Hepburn, but am not 100% sure on which brass I'll use yet.

I just looked into importing fees for brass and it looks like I can import a few hundred cases from Buffalo Arms without too much difficulty. I believe that their cases are made from .30-40 Krag which means I'll be able to use Dan Theodore's reamer print from Manson's reamers.

Chris.

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Re: .38-50 rem Hepburn from .303 British

Post by 4570win » Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:52 am

Cris I don't know if you new that Gord from the Island has the Dan Theodore's reamer from Manson's. And a fellow from Chilliwack who imports reloading components from the USA I am sure can get you the 30-40 krag rem brass. His name is Dave Friesen 604-858-6098. Lorne

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Re: .38-50 rem Hepburn from .303 British

Post by gunlaker » Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:51 pm

4570win wroteCOLONCris I don't know if you new that Gord from the Island has the Dan Theodore's reamer from Manson's. And a fellow from Chilliwack who imports reloading components from the USA I am sure can get you the 30-40 krag rem brass. His name is Dave Friesen 604-858-6098. Lorne
I did not know that. I don't think I know Gord, although I'm very bad with names. It's possible that I met him at Hefley Creek this year though as there were some guys from the island there :-)

I have asked Dave Friesen about .30-40 Krag brass in the past. He had Winchester brass but not Remington which, I believe, is what Dan's reamer is set up for. It turns out that Prophet River will import pretty much any quantity of brass I want for $50.

Btw, another good source of oddball brass in Canada is Jerry Teo of Mystic Precision. I believe he's near Kelowna. I bought all of my .45-110 Norma brass from him.

Thanks for the info!

Chris.

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Re: .38-50 rem Hepburn from .303 British

Post by HpGuy420 » Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:15 pm

Chris,

Check you PM.

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Re: .38-50 rem Hepburn from .303 British

Post by HpGuy420 » Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:45 pm

Chris,

Have a case expander made by Fred Cornell, the drawing is below. First, anneal the Rem cases, lube the inside, expanded them to 40-cal and then lube and FL size them so they minimally go in and out of the chamber with NO effort. Wait for your rifle before doing this. Do NOT over size the cases. You can load-test right away, no fire-forming needed.

Dang, you need to get the drawing from someone else. Photobucket whats more of my private info. I'm done with them.
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Re: .38-50 rem Hepburn from .303 British

Post by gunlaker » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:04 am

Dan, somehow I missed seeing your posts.

I ended up picking up a nice Winchester single shot in .38-50 RH from a member here. It's an original rifle with double set triggers and a Ron Smith gain twist barrel. It's set up as a bench rifle but I think it's be silhouette legal with a different forearm. It's a really nice rifle to shoot and I think it'll be quite accurate once I do a chamber cast and find the right bullet.

I've got just barely enough brass, but will likely import some from Buffalo Arms.

Chris.

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