lowering trigger pull weight

Arnie
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lowering trigger pull weight

Post by Arnie » Wed May 07, 2014 5:48 pm

Some one used to make tumblers for trapdoors to adjust the sear engagement of the lock . Any one know who that was and are they still for sale some where ? Arnie

4570win
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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by 4570win » Fri May 09, 2014 9:31 am

Arnie, I bought one in 2009 or 10 it works great I don't know if he is still in business.
Robert Smith , 19 Wood St. Powell, WY 82435 307 754-9492 thats all I have on him.
Good luck Lorne

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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by Arnie » Tue May 13, 2014 10:00 pm

4570win ,thanks for the info .Will call him tomorrow .Arnie

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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by beltfed » Wed May 14, 2014 12:02 pm

Arnie

So how is the flex jag and wipe rod working in your TD?

beltfed/arnie

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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by Arnie » Wed May 14, 2014 9:11 pm

beltfed ,the wiping rod work good .Im surprised how much more accurate it is when wiping between shots . I put a brush on it and a damp patch and it seems to clean enough to keep grouping even after 10 shots . Im going to work on a duplex load also as I want to shoot it in a military match with others shooting cast bullets .Should be interesting against Swiss K31's and O3A3 with cast bullets .

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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by Arnie » Wed May 14, 2014 9:13 pm

4570win , Robert Smith isn't making that tumbler any more so im going to work on the lock .I already stoned the sear and tumbler and ground some of the thickness of the sear spring .That lightened it up some already .Tomorrow I will thin down the main spring .

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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by 4570win » Thu May 15, 2014 10:52 pm

Arnie the tumbler I got from Robert is like using halfcock which makes for a faster hammer fall.
If you have the springfield with the 3 notch tumbler you could take off the fullcock and shoot from
halfcock. Lorne

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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by Brent » Sat May 17, 2014 5:13 pm

Arnie wroteCOLON4570win , Robert Smith isn't making that tumbler any more so im going to work on the lock .I already stoned the sear and tumbler and ground some of the thickness of the sear spring .That lightened it up some already .Tomorrow I will thin down the main spring .
If it is possible, put a set screw into the tumbler behind the sear to hold the sear out on the end of the engagement with the tumbler. Being a screw you can adjust it's pull much like a screw adjustment in a set trigger. Use a little blue locktite to ensure that it doesn't move on you.

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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by Arnie » Sat May 17, 2014 6:55 pm

Brent .the parts on this old lock are really hard . I doubt you could do any drilling and tapping on the tumbler with out annealing it first and then getting it hard again would be above my pay grade .

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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by Brent » Sat May 17, 2014 8:20 pm

ah yes, I have had that problem as well. I got away with using epoxy on shim. So far so good.

Silver solder would be better if you are more capable than I.
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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by Arnie » Sun May 18, 2014 8:07 pm

Yes ,I might try some JB weld and a brass shim and see if it stays .Shouldn't have any stress on it .

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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by 4570win » Wed May 21, 2014 10:24 pm

Arnie I don't know what you are using this rifle for, another thing you can do is put a double set singe lever target triggers
in it as they don't require a fly. Lorne

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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by beltfed » Sun May 25, 2014 9:21 pm

Arnie,
I know you will be Very careful in your approach to duplex loads in a 120+ year old TD.
beltfed/arnie

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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by kcajeel » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:17 pm

45/70 please tell me more about the availability of the "double set single lever target triggers" that you spoke about.
I have a trapdoor that has been made into a copy of the officers model and I need such a trigger to help complete the build.
Thanks, Jack

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Re: lowering trigger pull weight

Post by 4570win » Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:48 pm

Jack R.E.Davis makes a double set single lever trigger model #001 this trigger needs to be set before you can cock the rifle as it put presure on the sear if not set, that is why a fly is not needed. They also make a single set trigger that works the same, Model #003 with it you can remove the trigger mainspring which is on the out side of the trigger and then it works like a normal trigger for hunting , if you only use this rifle for target shooting I would get the double set trigger as it has great adjustment, I thought the single set model #003 had a little creep in it , I have not used this trigger for fifteen years or so it may be better now, hope this helps. Lorne

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