A 'fitting' 1st post on a BALLARD thread...

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A 'fitting' 1st post on a BALLARD thread...

Post by idahjo » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:14 am

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Post by crossfireoops » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:37 am

:wink: ...........DROOOOooooool, slobber, covet......


GTC 8)

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...........DROOOOooooool, slobber, covet....

Post by idahjo » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:01 pm

Me too... Do not know who currently owns that 'treasure', the picture once "stuck to my computer" :roll:

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Post by Digital Dan » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:56 am

Be nice if the owner would surface and start a charity fund raising auction... :roll: I'd be happy to contribute a bid or three.
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Post by dnovo » Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:28 pm

To quote the WHO in "Magic Bus", "I want it, I want it, I want it, YA CAN"T HAVE IT!" Dave

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Post by cooncatbob » Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:26 pm

Sweet.

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Post by marlinman93 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:14 pm

I know the owner of this fine Ballard cased set. It is two centerfire barrels, and one rinfire .22 barrel, with an extra ejector and block for the rimfire. Actually extra ejectors for each caliber, as they are different rim sizes.
The owner goes as Blackpowder Max on some other gun forums, and is a big fan of the Ballards! (me too!)

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Post by irish66 » Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:01 pm

yes this is very nice, I noticed that the rimfire extractor is a two piece.
makes it interesting.
I have a #3 gallery that was a 32 rimfire, with the 2 piece, it is now a 40-65bp.
I also own two 22lr ballards and will never part with them.
irish

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Re: nicerifle

Post by marlinman93 » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:45 pm

irish66 wroteCOLONyes this is very nice, I noticed that the rimfire extractor is a two piece.
makes it interesting.
I have a #3 gallery that was a 32 rimfire, with the 2 piece, it is now a 40-65bp.
I also own two 22lr ballards and will never part with them.
irish
YIKES!!!! A #3 rebarreled to .40-65?! That's a cast action, and should never be rebarreled to anything more than pistol calibers! What's that ticking sound?

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40-65

Post by irish66 » Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:01 pm

well so far I have been shooting a 420 lead bullet with 67 grs of 3fg goex and it is doing well at 200 yards with the irons 1.125 5 round groups./ and first bpc match shot a 20 with 3 and 1/2 chickens.
this reciever will take it had one a few years ago and it is still being shot!
irish

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Post by marlinman93 » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:59 pm

I wont get into a lengthy debate on the cast vs. forged thing, but numerous singleshot gurus, such as DeHaas have stated the #2 and #3 cast actions are not strong enough to survive years of shooting without developing frame cracks.
Not only is this a cast frame, but they are 120 years old, and because they are cast, they don't have nearly as much metal as a forged frame. The cast frame is hollow under the barrel, where a forged frame is solid all the way down below the barrel. Besides being forged, it's just more metal to support the breech area.
I love Ballards, and own a number of them, but I wont kid myself that even a forged Ballard is a strong action. It's strong enough for what they were chambered in, but even Ballard dropped the .44-40 from the cast lineup because of problems with it's strength, and that was over 100 years ago.
I hope you do prove me wrong, as I wouldn't want to say I told you so!

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Post by irish66 » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:24 pm

the velocities I am shooting are barely 44 mag loads at 1230 fps. they are not smokeless loads. and I plan on shooting this monster fro a very long time. being a tool and die machiniost of almost 30 years I think I understand better than most the stress factors, of cast and other actions heat treated or not. but like an old time shooting friend of mine everybody has an opinion and some are right and some are wrong. originally this was a 32 rimfire, and I have not only had the action xrayed, I also for peace of mine had it penetrant inspected. so I know what the metal looks like. it is actually a very good reciever.
cheers
irish

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